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glenn |
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Jun 1, 2005 4:01am |
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Re: best grateful dead show ever? |
The one you went to on your birthday/anniversery/first trip to a show/first NYE show/Mardi Gras/
or the one where you met
your wife/husband/Jesus...
the show you almost didn't go to but were so glad you did... the one you missed on that one tour... the show in your home town or the furthest from home or the furthest north or west or east or south, or the highest or lowest show, or your first show or your last show...
or the one that has your favorite song, the last time it was played or the first time, or the time they busted it out in the wrong set,
My favorite was the one at alpine valley where they played blackbird, and brent flaspped his wings and said fly away boys when bobby and jerry cracked each other up with their sweet harmony on the beatles' song... and the one in eugene where bob dylan came out and looked like the most bedraggled parking-lot dwelling tourhead, where they were picking psilocybe in the woods not 400 feet from the lot, and the one in Long Beach where Ruby and I danced all alone in a crowd of thousands, and my first show I was literally forced to go see at the cow palace in 74, when it seemed like i got out of the car and was suddenly in my home, a home I never visited before, or the Oxford Plains shows where little feat played almost identical sets 2 nights running, or the Mardi Gras show where I got to start the conga line, or the show where Jorma and Wavy and I laughed after I told bobby the dancing penguin story, or the show in Pittsburgh where the police rioted in the parking lot, but I never got inside the venue, or the one in Philadelphia, where I was looking for a miracle and the door flew open next to me just when I was about to give up looking...
yes, it's subjective, but there are a lot of shows that are considered the best because of something. If we knew what would make it a good show, we'd suggest a perfect one I think.
I asked last week about a 'best Let it grow' show, and got about 6 really good suggestions.
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dire--wolf |
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Jun 1, 2005 12:17pm |
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glenn everything you said is exactly true. the funny thing is my buddy and i were talking about the same thing 2 days ago. conclusion...Barton Hall, Cornell Univ. without a doubt. why? who knows. maybe it
s the minglewood> loser or phils lead base line in scarlet, wait, no it's estimated, because when we hear the songs in our head, we are hearing that show because it knocked our socks off the 1st time we heard it, and the 1st thing we said after the tape was finished, where is my brain? i can't beleive how great that show was. but..i suggest that anyone ciculating a tape to someone for the 1st time should give them that show. it was my first tape. 2nd, you could try, the great american musical hall in 75, or the filmore east in 71 when pigpen sold the brooklyn bridge for a buck and a quater. for me my favorite was my 1st show. 3-30-88. i heard it for the 1st time 4 weeks ago. i never knew how good it was.
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jhender501 |
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Jun 1, 2005 1:22pm |
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Very tough to answer. I think of shows that I went to and can pick some favorites..9-19/20-90 at MSG. Favorites as they are the first shows my brother and I attended together..I'd turned him on to the Dead in 1970 or so..also
6-12-92 Albany..why? Had the most fun..listening to aud
recordings reminds of just how much fun it was. Then again, I've downloaded shows from here that I hadn't heard before and could easily pick 3 or 4 "bests". One day they're the best..next they're great..but not the best..just listen and enjoy for what they are.
Jim
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Joe Beresf |
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Jun 1, 2005 1:36pm |
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Re: best grateful dead show ever? |
There is no such animal. I think it was in a Bill Walton interview, asked his fave GD song by a Mr. Jones (apol. to Bob D) His reply; "the next one" Same applies to shows. As Jerry said, we put the music out there, and it is what it is, till the next time. (tape, cd, DSO, et. al.)
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glenn |
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Jun 1, 2005 1:58pm |
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Re: best grateful dead show ever? |
I met Bill Walton at a B.B. Chung King an the Screaming Buddhaheads show, with George Carlin and Timothy Leary, and only about 200 people in the audience... a benefit for the Albert Hoffman Foundation, we had that 'favorite show' conversation... he said his favorite show is either the last one he saw or the next one he's going to see. I liked that. He was really cool and friendly.
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Triton |
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Oct 8, 2005 10:23am |
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I'm rather new to the Dead field, have been browsing some of the acres of gdlive and some of their albums. The gig at Rotterdam, Holland, May 11 '72 is very good though the sound quality a bit spotty sometimes (at 64kbps). Great mix of country, blues and adventurous, jamming psychedelia.
A fave among the recordings of groups around the Dead is the gig with jazz/funk band the Reconstruction of June 22, 1979, at the Keystone, Palo Alto CA (also gdlive.com) with Garcia on lead giuitar and joined by Ron Stallings on vocals - it seems to come from an obscure japanesse cassette but they must have known they were being taped (radio broadcast?)
Superb sound quality, lots of funky vibe and great trombone and trumpet playing. Gaylord Birch's drumming is a joy right through, makes me think of Dennis Davis' work with Bowie. Favourite track: "Make It Better".
This post was modified by Triton on 2005-10-08 17:21:52
This post was modified by Triton on 2005-10-08 17:23:02
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dave zub |
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Oct 8, 2005 1:31pm |
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hey now... i was always a '72 fan, until recently. i will agree with your assesment of their unique sound and musical prowess. picking a favorite show is difficult, but as far as '72 , stanley theater 9 28 is my choice.
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REAL2 |
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May 13, 2008 1:04pm |
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Re: Maybe you are into BuddahHeads? |
I'm looking for help from anyone who knows their music! Trying to learn "Talk'n Trash". Need help with the lyrics. Listen to the song..."silver bullets on my pillow, is _____ _____ ( so dead?). Please fill in the blanks. I think the last two words are "so dead", but have listened too many times - I'm starting to hear things!!! HELP !!!
It's REAL.
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glenn |
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Jun 2, 2005 10:25am |
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"when pigpen sold the brooklyn bridge for a buck and a quarter"
ok, that piqued my interest, I want to hear that show... what was the date? anyone?
4-17-71? I'm downloading that now... is that the one you meant?
edit: I think he's talking about this one 1971-04-25
http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=14563
another 'best show thread' with some good suggestions...
This post was modified by glenn on 2005-06-02 17:25:53
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dire--wolf |
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Jun 2, 2005 7:51am |
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sorry glenn. yes it was princeton. i went to this download. do you see any errors with the file , 4-17-71? some tracks are unamed and the text is not too clear.
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glenn |
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Jun 2, 2005 10:30am |
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Re: best grateful dead show ever? |
no errors so far, still downloading it, I grabbed 4-25 first... what specifically are you seeing as errors? and did you download the zip? or the individual songs by ftp? in lossless format or mp3 or ogg?
I'll look closer this evening. If I knew what to look for I could answer better.
that 4/25/71 is a pretty good choice of show
direwolf: that barton hall show shows up as the highest average rating when you search for it here, so good call, more than 10 thousand downloads from this site alone.
That show you are asking about errors? on it... the second set and the first set circulated separately so they are not named the same way exactly... but do you mean no name at all?
This post was modified by glenn on 2005-06-02 17:30:20
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dire--wolf |
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Jun 2, 2005 10:57am |
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while looking at the song list, some songs did not have the name of the song listed just the file name. so..i think i'm cool on that.
glenn i have a few other questions if you don't mind. smartftp, does it usually take awhile to download a show? i'm downloading the shn files to a folder like you said, cool, but it seems to take forever. before i started usning smartftp i was downloading each individual track to a file right from the archive by right clicking and saving as..this seemed to download faster. is this correct?
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glenn |
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Jun 3, 2005 9:43am |
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EDIT: You might be downloading all of the files in the folder, like all the .shn AND .mp3 versions etc too, if it's taking longer over all ... you only need the lossless ones, the mp3s are best used for a quick review of whether you want to spend the time downloading the .shn or .flac versions. Unless you are making mp3 discs for your mp3 player for jogging or juggling or whatever...(end edit)
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probably not. ftp is at least as fast, and more reliable, it will resume a broken download without having to start over.
What seems likely is maybe that there are 4 threads running at the same time or something, so its downloading 4 tracks at once, but that still is ok, by downloading using multiple threads, it uses more of your bandwidth at once and overall, the show will download faster... but individual tracks will take (a little less than) 4 times (or however many threads are running at once) as long.
To change all of those settings, you go to tools>settings look on the 'queue' section...
for most sites there is a limit to how many times you can connect without being rude, when bandwidth is an issue. Compared to how fast you can download though, essentially archive.org has 'infinite' bandwidth, so pretty much you can connect as many times as is efficient. I usually set 'max threads per site' to 2, and 'max threads total' to somewhere between 6 and 10. When set that way, I can be downloading 3 shows from 3 servers, and still not connecting to any one server more than twice (I download from a lot of private servers) 2 connections is usually tolerable even on a busy site, unless told otherwise. for what it's worth I have a fairly robust asynchronous dsl (from dslextreme, a local company in the San Fernando Valley that I really am pleased with) at about 170 Kilobytes per second download and about 1/3 to 1/2 that when uploading.
using a dialup modem, it took me about 2 days for a big show to download, now though, I can download a show a bit faster than I can listen to one.
what Op system are you using? what's your connection speed? if you have a lot more questions, or some difficulties, email me and I'll see what I can do, or start a thread 'smartftp question', maybe in the FAQs forum. Let's leave this thread to the 'best shows topic'.
This post was modified by glenn on 2005-06-03 16:43:11
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Chubalicious |
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Jul 22, 2009 8:54am |
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I think the Cornell (Barton hall) the May 77 show that everyone says is the best, is excellent for sure. The Best? naa, Definitely fire, or should i say scarlet > fire. Also that 4-25-71 show is sick, but the day after (4-26) is when Duane Allman sat in on set 2 for "Sugar Mags", and played slide on "it hurts me too" and "BIODTL". That to me is my favorite, because I never got to hear Jerry, Duane, and Pigpen Jam. Another Gem is set 2 of the Denver Coliseum, 11-20-73. We get lifted and melted on that one. Best Stella Blue of all times, Best Dead song of all times. I cant say 8-27-72 isnt my favorite either, a month or so after Pigpens last show.
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dire--wolf |
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Jun 2, 2005 10:20am |
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maybe there are not errors.. i'm still new to the downloading, but the tracks on the 2nd set are not named. is that common?
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bonk |
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Jun 3, 2005 12:12am |
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Re: best grateful dead show ever? |
best Dead show ever...........mmmmmmmmmm 3-1-69!!!Fil.West!!!!!!
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dirty jev-o |
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Jun 3, 2005 12:14am |
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i agree,....fa show
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devilbear |
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Apr 16, 2006 3:29pm |
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3-1-69 is one of my favorites. 11-8-69 also
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FlyinEye |
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Apr 16, 2006 5:06pm |
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Re: best grateful dead show ever? |
That's an impossable question for me to answer. Maybe I could answer something like what's my favorite version of a song, but best show.... I will check back on this thread to see what others think. My favorite venue was Ventura Calif. I saw my first show their in 84, and I loved the camping on the beech during the summer and going to shows. Definatly my favorite place for a show. It was like spring break for dead heads. Sorry that this ended off topic..... I think I'll start a new thread about best/favorite venue. I wonder if anyone who went to 85 or 87 remembers the Jerry Garcia masks that were made on a copy machine? That was me and my friend who made and gave thoes out. :) I saw a lot of people in the show wearing them backwards so that they had Jerry's face on the back of their head.
Ok, not to end completly off topic, one of my most played tapes was the Frost show that was just before my first show ever (the ventura one I was talking about). I think its Frost 7-13-84, going from memory. It's the one with a Dark Star encore.
This post was modified by FlyinEye on 2006-04-17 00:06:45
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Feb 10, 2013 1:29pm |
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How does 6/24/70 stack up IYO? Thanks
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Jun 1, 2005 9:43am |
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thanks glenn seems like it might be 5/5/81 glens falls civic center,glens falls,NY.where I got out of a car from VT. and found the family I didn't know I had.strange bunch of poeple.can't seem to go anywhere now without finding some.
peace.
T.
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